HS2 is a vital part of the infrastructure overhaul says Minister for Transport
Posted by Roger Godsiff, MP for Birmingham, Hall Green, at 15:28, Wed 26 June 2013:
According to a recent statement by Patrick McLoughlin MP, Secretary of State for Transport: “HS2 is a vital part of the infrastructure overhaul that this government is delivering so that our country can compete in the global race.”
I say most other people would appreciate trains that run on time, railfares that don’t keep on rising and somewhere to sit down.
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Posted by Laurence Smith, 15:47, Wed 26 June 2013: (Is this post abusive?) #
Is that it? So you are against HS2? Would you care to give some more details? Reasons, alternatives etc.
Posted by Mr. Christopher J. Whitehouse, 15:50, Wed 26 June 2013: (Is this post abusive?) #
HS2 is definatley not a priority for me. I agree that I would prefer the trains to run on time and for the fares to stop rising above inflation. HS2 might be better if our country was twice the size so that we could get to places quicker but quite frankly it is a very expensive white elephant in the making, which will only suck more people into the London area. If it was designed to start from Glasgow then it might be seen as a boost for the whole of Great Britain but as it is starting from London there is only one conclusion that can be drawn; that it is for the benefit of London.
Posted by Mohammed Hemraj, 16:52, Wed 26 June 2013: (Is this post abusive?) #
I am a regular train commuter and I have noticed that if one train is delayed for any reason it creates a chain reaction and delays those trains which are at the station on time. The delay could be due to signal failure etc.
For the bus fare not to increase the government has to introduce a cap and then subsidize the train operators, not an attractive option.
Is faster train a solution? It is a debatable issue.
I have noticed only two lines where trains go in each directions. The solution is to put more railway lines, but the question is where. There is no space or land available as in the past the railway company had sold the land to the builders. Is this a failed policy?
Posted by Colin, 07:24, Thu 27 June 2013: (Is this post abusive?) #
A bit odd to hear Labour carping on about poor infrastructure, when they had 13 years to improve it. Plus, they had mind-boggling billions, which they borrowed & wasted, leaving the country indebted for generations to come. Ed Balls was on ITV this morning, whingeing about the economy, unemployment & NHS queues. Unemployment at 2 million would be non-existent, were it not for the FOUR million immigrants Labour let in. The same effect applies to our Health Service, schools, housing, etc. These incompetents & cultural vandals should never be entrusted with Government again.
Posted by Mr. Christopher J. Whitehouse, 17:32, Thu 27 June 2013: (Is this post abusive?) #
I agree with both the people who have posted replies, Mohammed Hemraj and Colin and in the light of the newly enlightened figures that have been revealed I believe that HS2 will be an even bigger white elephant; possibly costing more than twice the original estimate; as is usual with government costings of major infrastructure grandiose schemes that will "supposedly" find employment for thousands of unemployed people. It will employ people in the short term until it is built but then what is supposed to happen to all the people then. Back on the dole and costing the country more money. No thanks. Improve the existing railways now. Widen the motorways to 4 lanes and mend the roads that we already have. The government already takes enough money from motorist to tarmac over the whole of Britain anyway without ruining great swathes of the countryside from a scar with HS2.
Posted by Harvinder Kaur, 08:33, Fri 28 June 2013: (Is this post abusive?) #
..."the public gets what the public wants..." So says Paul Weller from the Jam. The minds of the cival servants, who lets face it, really run this country are made up.Unfortunatly HS2 is coming our way therefore we are going underground Just listen to the Jam much of what they were singing about is true.The Eton Rifles don't care about us
Tarrah
Posted by Mohammed Hemraj, 10:21, Fri 28 June 2013: (Is this post abusive?) #
It is the politicians who made the decisions, these politicians are not lawyers or with business acumen and it seems they also do not consider the future implication of their decisions or they get their sums wrong. Projects always tend to substantially overrun what it was initially budget to cost. I do not understand why this should be case and therefore we need smart lawyers. Also, that is why we need a wider discussion with the inputs from wider cross sections of the community. Proper planning requires development in conjunction with other various projects that the fast railway will deliver like businesses, housing, schools, social mobility, etc. A project should have a better impact on other areas like community, business, environment, future high demand and prosperity of the country, should be given a priority. Projects should never be based on the kick-backs the interested parties will receive based on its approval but this seems to be the norm in the private sector and this may also be the case with the pubic sector.
Posted by Mr. Christopher J. Whitehouse, 17:03, Fri 28 June 2013: (Is this post abusive?) #
What we need is UKIP in charge of the country and not a lot of self gratifying egomaniacs that we have at the moment who only want to go down as the government that wasted billions of pounds on a 200 mph white elephant that ordinary folk will not be able to travel on. Concord was the same; billions spent on it in research and building it but it ran as a loss all the time because it couldn't carry enough people, only those that could afford the price of the tickets. Concord a truly fantastic piece of engineering but a flying white elephant and the same will apply to HS2.
Posted by Mohammed Hemraj, 11:31, Sat 29 June 2013: (Is this post abusive?) #
Do we need a UKIP, certainly not. A cynic will argue that it is better to have a devil we know, rather then a devil we do not. It is true that people get what they deserve, the majority are passive and this enables the government to use this passivity to their advanatage. Should we protest?
Posted by Mr. Christopher J. Whitehouse, 18:28, Sat 29 June 2013: (Is this post abusive?) #
Of course we should protest and the only way at the moment is to kick this lot out and let a completely new lot in. We know the devils in Parliament on both sides of the House and we know they are no good. They are not looking after the interests of the British people as UKIP would. £53 million to the EU per day and £28 million per day in overseas aid. We do get some back from the EU but why give them anything in the first place. We also do not need HS2 which is a grandiose scheme dreamed up as a smoke screen to the governments complete inability to get us out of financial ruin.
Posted by Mohammed Hemraj, 07:43, Sun 30 June 2013: (Is this post abusive?) #
It is a wishful thinking that UKIP will be able to solve the problems, we are all into it, and we should all unite and leave party politics behind to resolve many problems that this great country is facing.
Posted by Mr. Christopher J. Whitehouse, 21:22, Sun 30 June 2013: (Is this post abusive?) #
UKIP will not be the answer to all our countries ailments but at least they will bring our decision making back to this parliament. Most of our laws and economic decisions are made in Brussels and Strasberg not in the parliament of my country. The EU makes us a weaker country not a stronger country. The EU drains our country of self determination, business and money. We are propping up the biggest failure in the EU the Euro, if you do not see that and the fact that we have had no economic growth since 2008 then you will not want to leave this leach that is sucking us dry. HS2 will not bring an economic recovery, Answer me this, who will make the trains to travel along the HS2 route. Not us but the French. Who will make the signaling equipment. Not us but the Germans. All the work going abroad. We will be lucky to get 10% of the supply contract and some people think HS2 will be a boost to this countries economy. They are living in cloud cuckoo land.
Posted by Mohammed Hemraj, 19:16, Mon 1 July 2013: (Is this post abusive?) #
UKIP obsession.
Posted by Mr. Christopher J. Whitehouse, 12:30, Tue 2 July 2013: (Is this post abusive?) #
Not so. If you want to see how focused UKIP is on getting us out of the EU then go to their website. At least they are doing something for this country whereas most of the M.P's with the exception of a few want to stay in. Why? Because they can see where their next cushy job is coming from once many of them lose their seats in 2015. HS2 will go the same way. Answer me this; why isn't HS2 going straight through to the channel tunnel instead of stopping at London?
Posted by Mohammed Hemraj, 10:57, Wed 3 July 2013: (Is this post abusive?) #
Waste of time. Getting out of EU will not solve the problem of housing shortages, will not make bank start lending, will not put behind the bars those bank executives who had indulged in gambling and speculating on depositors money and now the taxpayers have to bear the brunt and the future generation, it will not solve the problem of executive bonuses, etc, etc. The situation will not improve even if the plan for HS2 was to be discarded. What policies has UKIP to offer? How will it implement its policies when it will never get elected?
Posted by Mr. Christopher J. Whitehouse, 16:10, Thu 4 July 2013: (Is this post abusive?) #
If you look at a great many policies being incorporated by the Conservative and Labour parties you will find that they have been filched from UKIP policies. Go to the UKIP website and have a look and see for yourself. UKIP may not get elected to power this time but UKIP will get some M.P's into parliament and then you will see for yourself that they mean serious business for the good of the United Kingdom. And they will oppose HS2 all the way. Which is what this debate is about.
Posted by Mohammed Hemraj, 10:22, Fri 5 July 2013: (Is this post abusive?) #
If UKIP is so smart why is it not the government in power leading this country. May be there are good ideas in every party and we need to exploit them rather then take the attitude of us verses them. I personally also recommend that we take good from different religious practices like being good to each other, helping the needy, poor and the disadvantage people of this country etc. and these should be enshrined in each party's manifesto.